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There's a new bill in several states called the right to repair bill.

To put it simply, this is a bill that's being heavily lobbied against by big corps where the following would be mandated.

#1, schematics for electronics and appliances must be available to the public (no more hiding things apple).
#2, parts must be made available affordably to end users and repair places
#3, companies cannot block/prevent someone from ordering a part by making it so only they can order that specific chip, capacitor, etc.

Note that none of this is stuff that can't be figured out with a bit of reverse engineering, it's just how things are laid out on circuit boards, wiring diagrams, etc, and the parts to replace stuff as needed.

This does not affect things like giving out source code and preventing copyright protections would, rather it's just the schmatics for the physical devices, which we technically own when we buy them, despite what corporations say to the contrary.

We already have the right to repair our homes and vehicles, we should have the right to repair our appliances, phones, computers, etc, too.

It's a big deal right now and something interesting to debate.

So far the lobbyists against this have stated things like how it's dangerous to make your own repairs, how it violates company IP's to give out schematics and allow repair by third party repair groups, and how they would be liable for someone breaking warranty and hurting themselves in the process of repairing something themselves.
none of that is true btw.

In fact a lot of the people talking are using FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) to try and convince senators and law makers to turn the law down, this happened years ago with automobiles, and you can find schematics on the inside of most appliances, so why not other stuff as well.

Especially when you can learn to repair this stuff over a couple hours in a class?

Links about the topic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic..._to_repair
https://repair.org/fair-repair-faq
https://www.ifixit.com/Right-to-Repair/Intro
https://www.eff.org/issues/right-to-repair
https://www.wired.com/story/right-to-rep...alifornia/

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The throw away society we've created has become so absurd it's almost comical. Even in the younger years of my parents you almost never bought something new. Tools were so well crafted they were considered heirlooms for your children. Common appliances and any gadget in your home could be repaired easily by yourself or for a low price by a local repairman. The US Army used to brag how jeeps could be repaired with only a wrench and a pair of pliers with zero experience necessary. Now you can't do any of that and even if you try you'll likely not be able to fix it, no one else fixes it, and if someone does repair parts are higher than just buying a new one. So yes I 110% agree with these laws. It's long overdue.

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The funny thing is, there is already a right to repair bill for automobiles.

and homes are fairly easy to repair, cheap too.

interesting part of the bill in some states.

right to repair extends to farm equipment.

see apparently farmers are experiencing the same crap that tech manufacturers are giving us... for their farm equipment, tractors, havesters, etc.

to the point that if your tractor breaks down you have to take it to an authorized repair shop for the company that makes said tractor, and pay through the nose for a repair.

how are tractors loopholed out of the right to repair automobiles bill from years ago?! 0_o

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I can't wait for people to start messing around inside Apple computers and finally realizing that they have the exact same parts as PCs for three times the price.
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MeowsePad wrote:
2 weeks ago
I can't wait for people to start messing around inside Apple computers and finally realizing that they have the exact same parts as PCs for three times the price.
Actually that's not 100% true.

there are a few specialty components that exist on and only work on apple computers.
kinda like how game consoles are these days.

but yeah for the most part you are right.

that being said, having a specialty part, that the end user can't get ordered, and do a replacement, at least at a 3rd party or 4th party shop and having to jump through a million hoops just to be told no because Texas instruments or whatever can't sell you that chip due to apple's intellectual property is pure BS.

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Other than my phone, I don't typically buy technology I can't fix myself. Granted when it comes to a computer's motherboard failing in a laptop I don't usually bother with the headache and I'll just pick up a replacement from work.

I guess it's been a while since I've dealt with a situation with a computer where I've had to order a special part (aside from a laptop or a Mac).

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